Abundance Mindset, Faith and the power of supporting others w/ Tish Bell – She Leads She Thrives Podcast Ep 64

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Chatting with my friend in business Tish Bell is always such a breath of fresh air. I first met Tish when we were in a mastermind together a couple of years ago and I was instantly drawn to her effervescence and genuine love of living and breathing what she believes in.

At the time Tish was supporting clients as a money and abundance mentor, amongst other things. She has evolved to offer other fascinating services in the professional speaker space and I loved being able to dig into her world and hear about her evolution, the role of abundance, how to have an abundance mindset, what matters most to Tish, and how she commits to living what she teaches.

You are in for lots of energy, some awesome truths, and an opportunity to think differently when you tune into our conversation.

In this episode
* 04:27 Tish’s founder story
* 10:43 Abundance mindset
* 16:36 First steps when you’re not feeling abundant
* 25:36 Important things to consider when seeking speaker support
* 29:29 Most interesting speaker challenge
* 32:48 What it is like working with an 8 figure speaker
* 41:42 What role does leadership play in your life and business?
* 43:34 How do you know when you’re thriving?
* 45:54 Connect with Tish
* 47:28 What’s a final piece of wisdom that you’d like to share?

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Connect with guest Tish Bell

As an Award Winning Speaker and Passionate Leader to High-Level Female Speakers and their dream team Tish Bell is deeply passionate about seeing women supported in how they show up in the world with their expertise.  


Tish Bell is the creator of The Hello Millionaire Brand where she trains Speaker Assistants, and their team and provides support to her 7 and 8 Figure Speaking Clients 1:1 during live events and retreats.   In addition to her business expertise, she is a well-traveled women’s empowerment speaker and has been known for making meaningful connections with her audiences. Tish has been interviewed on the Impact Network, “It’s a New Day Today Show”, and she knows how to rock a platform leaving the audience feeling abundant and excited.  


Tish is a graduate of Winston-Salem State University and holds a Masters in Organizational Management and Leadership from Pfeiffer University.  She is driven by her faith and lives by the motto…  Dream big, don’t back down, and let’s make it happen. 


Connect with Tish

Episode Transcript


She Lead She Thrives, the home of inspired conversations, practical and creative wisdom, expansive leadership and business insights, abundant Bragaudacious moments of celebration and useful info you can actually do something with.


You’ll hear about mindset marketing, money, magnetism, self awareness and the Thrive Factor Framework, it’s Archetypes and more. Amplify your role as a leader, a self led soul. Tap into your effortless success zone. Turn your ingeniousness and wisdom into profitable income streams.


From solo shows to guests you’ll definitely want more from, there’s something for every ambitious ingenious soul. 


I’m Shannon Dunn, a true OG of the business coaching space, with an obsession with thriving. You are so welcome here. Let’s dive into today’s episode.


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Shannon Dunn  01:16

A huge hello, everyone. I am delighted again, as I say every time we have a new guest on She Leads She Thrives. But I am super delighted today to welcome our guest Tish Bell, I’ll tell you in a moment how I noticed it. For those of you that may be new to She Leads She Thrives. I’m Shannon Dunn, I am a long term self leadership and business coach and your host here at She Lerads She Thrives podcast. 


Shannon Dunn  01:38

And one of the things that I absolutely love to do – and I was saying to teach just before we started recording today, a little bit of selfishness on my part – I love the fact that I get to have incredible conversations with amazing women that I know. And Tish, it was easily two years ago, like we’re kind of latter part of 2023. Now, easily two years ago, you and I first connected in a mastermind and doing programs with a coach that we had, same coach at the time. And I always remember, you bought so much like effervescence to everything. And it was just something about you I was so intrigued by and I love that over that time we’ve connected in different ways and got to chat. But this is the first time we’ve actually got to kind of face to face on Zoom. And I’m so glad you said yes. When I reached out and said come and be on the podcast. 


Shannon Dunn  02:28

So welcome, my friend. It’s so good to talk to you. We’ve got so much we’re going to talk about today, right? So many different things. So many. So let me share your bio so people can get an understanding of who is sitting in the hot seat today. And then we’ll dive into our conversation. 


Shannon Dunn  02:44

So as an award winning speaker and passionate leader to high level female speakers and their dream team, Tish Bell is deeply passionate about seeing women supported in how they show up in the world with their expertise. She’s the creator of the Hello Millionaire brand, where she trains speakers, assistants, their team and provide support to her seven and eight figure speaking clients, one on one during live events and retreats. Now this is something we’re going to get more into during the conversation today because this has been an evolution from when we first met. So I’m excited to find out more about that. 


Shannon Dunn  03:18

In addition to her business expertise, she is a well-traveled women’s empowerment speaker and has been known for  making meaningful connections with her audiences. Tish has been interviewed on the Impact Network, “It’s a New Day Today Show”, and she knows how to rock a platform leaving the audience feeling abundant and excited. With your effervescence, that’s no surprise to me. I’d love to see you one day in person I’ll get to see you speak. Tish is a graduate of Winston-Salem State University & holds a Masters in Organizational Management and Leadership from Pfeiffer University.      She is driven by her faith and lives by the motto – I love this Tish. Dream big, don’t back down. And let’s make it happen. Right again. No excuses, right? You’re an action woman, aren’t you?


Tish Bell  04:08

Thank you, Shannon for having me. I mean, I’m so thrilled. I can’t stop smiling. I’m excited to be here with you on your beautiful, gorgeous podcast, and congratulations on all of your success with the podcast you’re leading. And you’re  definitely embodying a woman who leads and who thrives.


Shannon Dunn  04:27

Thank you so much. What a great way to start for both of us. As I said, having only focused this time around on inviting women that I have a genuine connection with makes the conversations we get to create so much richer than, you know, having people that have nothing or no idea about pitching and go yeah, they could be a good fit. It’s not. So this is again, it’s often a lot of mutual admiration and love for each other, which I think is such a good thing for us to see as women as well. Now I love a good founder story so let’s start there. How did you end up as a business owner before we talk more about the things that you do in your business and the way you support your clients?


Tish Bell  05:10

Well, you know, it’s been a journey. But how I got started, I have a sister, who was big into the self help industry. Okay, so I was going through struggles on my job. And I don’t know, maybe at that time unemployed, this is an up and down journey. But it would take me to seminars with her. And I will start going to all the seminars in Atlanta about how to make money, how to have an abundant mindset, how to manifest money, so I was constantly going with her. And it just started to generate a belief in me, a belief in me that this is possible, that the life that I want is possible, the business that I want, is possible. 


Tish Bell  05:56

And so I had tried plenty of entrepreneur things, network marketing. But I always came back to speaking, I always came back to motivation, I always came back to like, being, as you say, that effervescent, that energy, that catalyst that could bring people together and just really get them motivated, empowered to do what to take action. And that’s how we started now, the Hello Millionaire brand was formed, because I had gone through, which will dig into a really rocky relationship with money. And literally, I was standing in my bathroom mirror, and it was like, Girl, hello, millionaire. And I was like, it’s like a light bulb went off, like, oh, you get to call people into their next. So that’s how that was born. And I’m here today. That’s my journey, a little bit of it.


Shannon Dunn  06:48

I love it. I love it. Yeah, when we first connected those couple of years ago, your focus very much was at that time more about money. So as I said, I have loved kind of from afar, obviously, because little distance between the two of us, opposite sides of the world, but kind of watching your evolution as you stepped into what felt more aligned with who you are. So I love that  you’re bringing in all that abundance mindset. But you’re like layering it into the speaking and related things that you do. 


Shannon Dunn  07:21

So before we talk more about the abundance mindset, and kind of some of the money stuff, how did you get started as a speaker team trainer then and, and also speaker, like, this is more of what you’re doing now. And I remember when you just in the last few weeks, and we were messaging and you were sharing with me about kind of what you’re doing now again, that effervescence was turned all the way up in Tish style. And I was like, oh my goodness, I so I felt that like at my core, about how aligned this is for you. So tell us more about how this came to be.


Tish Bell  07:53

So as far as speaking, I have always had a passion for speaking, never shied away from an audience when I was younger, I did pageants, and I have to credit my mother for that. Because she always put me in things, you know, to help me with my boldness and being outgoing. And so I did a lot of speeches of leadership in high school,  leadership in college. And as I started to listen to other motivational speakers, I’m like, Yeah, I could do that. Like, I’m not afraid of talking like,  how do you do that? Aside from that I’m also a minister, and speaking is just a part of my life is what I do. And its a natural gift, but I have also cultivated it as well. 


Tish Bell  08:41

So while it is something natural that I enjoy doing, I have invested in becoming a better speaker, you know, by putting my words together, and really engaging my audience. So I have evolved into that. I think it was always there. But it was like a gift. Because you know, when we have our gifts, they’re so natural to us. And we’re like, Yep, I don’t want to do that. I’m supposed to be doing something over here, something big, something shiny, not this because I already know how to do this. I don’t want to do this. It’s too boring. But I realized that when God gives us gifts, they are very natural to us. And those are the things that lead us into, you know, the prosperity and the abundance that is already destined for us. They come through the gifts that are already on the inside of us. So I stopped shying away from that gift and I said you know what, I’m just going to embrace it. And it has led me in multiple places from public relations to hosting events to speaking on stages. It is been a wild ride, but I’m enjoying it. Yeah, for sure.


Shannon Dunn  09:48

It’s such an interesting thing how we lean back from those things that are literally effortless to us. Because you know there’s such a mindset internationally for so many of us. It’s not a related to where you’re from or anything like that it really is something that so many of us across the world have an understanding of or a lived experience of,  Well, that was too easy. So what like why? Why do that? Let’s go and do the hard thing that we push against. And we have resistance and feels heavy and difficult all the time. Yeah, that’s what we’re meant to do. No, it’s like the ease and the effortlessness, the space as you say, the gifts we have, the strengths we have. I look at it this when I’m using the Thrive Factor Archetypes, I’m working with a client, you know, lean into this the innate Archetypal strengths, the strengths of your, like innate psychology, use that.  


Shannon Dunn  10:43

So let’s talk a little bit about the money stuff, the abundance mindset and how you have cultivated that for yourself, and how you support others, even in the speaking support that you’re doing. Like, where does it show up? How do you foster it, you even said to me, before we started recording today, how you’ve been doing some money related exercises, because it’s a daily commitment. So tell us more about that mindset? 


Tish Bell  11:10

Yeah, it is. And I think when it comes to abundance, you have to, you know, really develop and create some core beliefs around money, and what abundance is to you, your relationship to God, your relationship to yourself and your relationship to everything that is around you. So I grew up..I’m on the east coast here in North Carolina, but I’m also in the south, and I grew up in a very religious family. So a lot of what I heard around money was very negative, even as it related to God, like, you know, your struggle will bring you closer, be afraid of worldly wealth, don’t get too much, because something bad’s going to happen. So like so many of us growing up with those limiting beliefs. 


Tish Bell  11:54

As I began to get older, and wanted a way out of like, why am I struggling financially. I have these student loans, I’ve gone to college, I’m working hard. Other people seem to be living a much better life. Why me, right? I started to dig into like, abundance, abundance mindset, abundance books, understanding what money truly is, understanding how to recreate a brand new relationship with money, with myself, with God, with how I see the world, and how I show up. And in doing that, I was able to find a lot of strategies to release the limiting beliefs, and begin to challenge them, begin to see the world in a more abundant place. And I think when you have an abundant mindset, no matter what you do, its going to prosper, you’re going to show up with like, such a big energy, because you know that everything is available to you in every moment. 


Tish Bell  12:55

And that’s how I choose to see everything, every opportunity, you know, I don’t see it as Oh my God, why me? like there’s a level of confidence that I’ve cultivated for myself, I mean, it’s really, really big, a really big belief in myself. And I think that’s where your abundance starts first believing that you can have and its already yours. And understanding that abundance is everywhere, is all around you,  its space,  its energy,  its thought, its emotions. And once you understand the foundation of it, then you start to see it in your outer world, it all starts in thought – I’m a big believer of that.


Shannon Dunn  13:34

So often we can get so focused on looking for evidence to prove something’s right, rather than fostering, like putting energy into believing it’s possible. And like you just talked about then Tish, the confidence that can come with that change in your belief systems, I feel also builds such an incredible resilience so that when things are maybe not going as smoothly or in the direction that you have been working towards, your ability to move through that is so much easier, like there is a different level of ease and graciousness around that because of the confidence you’ve built, the resilience you’ve built, the foundations you can rely on and trust, that are not there without the abundance mindset. 


Tish Bell  14:22

Absolutely. And I mean, it really does start with you. You get to self select and choose the thoughts that you want to think. So you have a choice. You can constantly choose abundance, or you can consciously choose lack, but here’s the thing, I believe just based on my experience, that you don’t have to choose lack. What are you focused on? What is it that you want to see and having that confidence and that mental self talk because your self talk is going to create your reality. If I say all day long, I’m broke. I’m poor, I’m nothing, I’ll never have anything – that is going to manifest in your reality, you don’t have to do anything it’s going to happen. 


Tish Bell  15:03

But when you start to consciously change your thoughts about abundance that I’m worthy of this, I deserve this, there’s abundance everywhere, and I am opening up my mind to prosperity to opportunities. I’m going to focus on the beautiful, big expansive things that are happening around me right now. I look outside at the abundance, I’m living this beautiful world. It is lavish and it is abundant. I am an abundant person. I was created in abundance, and you allow that to become your self talk, you’re going to see abundance in your life. And its not anything that’s just so woowoo or there,  its your self talk, what do you choose to see? If I tune into the violence, to death, the murders and other negative things that are happening in the world – that becomes my reality. But if I tune into something else, you know, the life, the beauty, the joy, I’m tuning into a different reality. So we all have a choice. Yeah, I’m choosing abundance. 


Shannon Dunn  16:03

I love it. I teach a lot around the self leadership that the expression of self leadership is the result of the choices we make and the action we take in response to those choices, which is exactly what you’re sharing here. It’s around the choices,  knowing that you have choices, and then making a choice in line with what you actually want to experience as your reality. Even if it’s not yet your reality, right? There’s a lot of there is a lot of faith and trust that goes into this kind of mindset work, isn’t there so much, so much. 


Shannon Dunn  16:36

So just as a side thing here, I just thought to ask you, if somebody is sitting in that space of not feeling that abundant right now, for whatever reason? What is the first place to go to to start, like if they’ve having challenges, shifting those thoughts, challenging those beliefs that have just been running, say a tape in their background for inside them, you know, in their reality for so long? Where do we start?


Tish Bell  17:06

The first thing you need to do is take a breath. And it sounds so basic, but when we start to just take a nice deep breath, we get to disconnect from those subconscious thoughts that are running. Wow,  that wow, crazy, negative, limiting, defeated mindset. And that breath, you get to tune in, it’s going to calm your body, it’s going to calm your nervous system, it’s going to allow you to refocus and reprioritize your thoughts. And I think sometimes, especially, in our culture and really around the world, we’re so busy in hustle mode, and that and I used to be a part of the team no sleep. I mean, I would be up for three days working on websites, literally funnels. I mean, I was coaching women, I had mastermind partners, and we were thrive ourselves going, Hey, we’re gonna stay up the four o’clock am building funnels. This was a few years back when it was like no sleep, you know, team no sleep, grind, hustle…


Shannon Dunn  18:16

And that was really glorified for a period of time wasn’t it.


Tish Bell  18:19

It was glorified. And yeah, and I got caught up in it. And eventually you burn out with that mindset. So a lot of times when you’re in the middle of a storm or a financial storm, and you’re thinking what do I need to do? Einstein said, you can’t solve a problem on the same level that it was created. So you have to take a step, take a breath first. Just clear your mind in that moment, 10 seconds, and then refocus. That doesn’t mean that you’re going to be a millionaire because you refocus, but your thoughts are going to change. And you’re going to realize that I’ve been focused on what I don’t have, but what do I have? What is in my house right now. 


Tish Bell  19:06

And there’s a Bible scripture in Second Kings, which talks about a widow woman, and she came to the Prophet Elijah. And she says, Listen, the creditors are here to take my children because my husband died and I don’t have any money. He has left me in debt. And Elijah says to her, Okay, what is in your house? She says, A jar of oil. So sometimes we’re so much focused on the problem that we forget there are things within our own physical house, what is within your mind, what product is on the inside of you? If you don’t have a product? What is your personality trait that will open up a new door of opportunity for you? There’s always something in you that will prosper you, but you have to get quiet enough to hear it and it just takes one breath.


Shannon Dunn  19:59

Yeah. I love it . Like you said simple. But I think the simple things are the things that we can forget. Right? It doesn’t have to be this big. I’ve got to go into a program and completely rewire my mind. No, you just start breathing. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. 


Shannon Dunn  20:17

So let’s get back to talk more about the speaker stuff, right? And I know that you have been doing more support of speakers in different ways. So why do you believe that female speakers need a support team during their live events and their retreats, those kind of live experiences? Why is that so important?


Tish Bell  20:39

Oh, my God, okay, I’m gonna take my time here. Its so important. Because as a speaker, as a woman, you are generating and bringing a massive force of energy into a room full of women or men, or women and men. You are delivering a message, through your program, through your event that is going to change lives, is going to change destinies. People are going to parent different, they’re going to do business different, millionaires are being created, like there’s a vibration and a force that you are bringing. 


Tish Bell  21:19

So I know from my own experience at a smaller scale, that when you are trying to release something that dimension or shift into the earth, there are so many things that can distract you. Even the people that you love can be a big distraction when you are when your mind is focused. And I’m very protective of my energy, very protective like of my whole my whole spirit. I don’t like a lot of noise, its very quiet. I have all these little little things, right? 


Tish Bell  21:52

And I know how I feel when I was speaking. And I said, you know what, I would love to just help literally, it was just like a prayer, like I loved like just help women really just feel supported and loved. It was a thought that I even wrote down in a journal. I don’t even know why, like, where it came from. Yeah. So an opportunity happened for me to be able to do that. And the speaker that I supported was an eight figure speaker, and he was like, so impressed. And she was like, Is this what you do full time? And I’m like, No, this there is just an opportunity came and I jumped on it. Like, I’m doing so many other things. This is so totally, something fun to do. She was like, No, this is a business. This is it something that I’m like, she’s like being around your energy. But again, I think it comes with having an abundant mindset, you being willing to serve, just wanting to see people supported, wanting to see, you know, her move and her energy. And I was just having, I was like literally having a lot of fun with that. 


Tish Bell  23:05

Then she referred me to other people. And I’m like, Okay, this thing is real, because like I’m flying out to different places. I’m like, okay, like, this is just not a hobby. So being able to support and to train people on how to have that emotional intelligence, understanding like the psychology of that speaker, like that person is the talent and  things that I have cultivated within my team, and I want them to feel supported in that way. So, you know, understanding the personality of that speaker, like when you’re doing a live event is different than just a one or two day mastermind. You’re literally taking – I’m not sure how to describe it – but you’re literally bringing like heaven on earth, like you’re releasing a massive download, to a roomful of people, you need your energy, protected, you need to make sure that you are well taken care of, that you have everything you need. And I know as women, sometimes we don’t feel like…we know that people are supporting us, but it’s still that like, I can do it myself. You know, I can do it myself. I like them like the spoil rotten effect, you know,  I’m just gonna spoil you and it’s just like, I’m having the time of my life. 


Shannon Dunn  24:31

When I’m speaking in the US, you are going to be my support.


Tish Bell  24:34

Its amazing. And I think when you love what you do, but I think making sure that your team understands that this isn’t just, you know, a three day event that we do for a million in revenue and sales. Lives are being changed and there’s an energetic process to how this is done. And everyone needs to understand that every movement is vital to the success of people receiving what they need. And every movement, this is important. Every movement that that team makes around that speaker is going to either shift her energy into another place into frenzy or to keep her calm. And I’ve had my speakers to say at the end of the events, things have happened in events, you know, maybe someone’s meal wasn’t right or something – it never gets to them if I’m there.  They won’t know it until the end. 


Shannon Dunn  25:36

I love that. So what is important for speakers to consider? So that they’re not just choosing for their support any old person that might be, either in their team or a friend of volunteers or someone that they like, you know, like her energy, like, how do we actually make this intentional and strategic, so that you are as a speaker, surrounding yourself with the right person or people.


Tish Bell  25:58

I’m very big on energy. Yeah, I’m very big on energy. And I’m very big on actions and communication. So being direct with what you need. So you want to make sure that the person that you select, for one, they have to have a very good high level of emotional intelligence, they cannot be easily offended. And they have to be assertive, and they have to be a leader. But they also have to understand because I’m an alpha woman, but when I’m supporting my speakers, I understand that I’m there number two, for that live event as well. So you want a person that’s going to represent you with excellence, tech, professionalism. And these are traits that I embody. So they have to embody those traits as well. So they have to want to see you win, and they have to really be there to support you. But I think that comes with building a relationship with the person. But what I have found is, even though I have worked with women whom I’ve never worked with before, it’s just like this spiritual connection. And I think that’s important to be very spiritually connected about what you want and trust the process, you have to be able to trust. But they have to embody those qualities, even when it’s challenging, you have to maintain your professionalism.


Shannon Dunn  27:29

You’re an extension of someone’s brand. And someone that gets a level of speaking at this level, usually has another – I can’t think of an example where they haven’t seen this – but they have invested a lot of time and energy and emotion and all the things into building and nurturing an incredible brand that really has presence. So if your support team or support person isn’t a representation of that brand, and what it stands for, there’s an immediate disconnect. The speaker won’t feel like they’re supported. But the audience, as you said earlier, like the audience will be impacted with experience that they have as well. Right?


Tish Bell  28:14

Yeah, absolutely. You that person that number 2 person, they’re supporting that speaker, they have to believe in the mission, believe in a dream, but importantly, believe in that person. Because in the role that I play, and what I teach others, you’re supporting the speaker, so you’re literally taking care of that individual. She has been assigned to you, you know, to a degree like her life is in your hands, you have to handle that with care. So with that, having that spiritual connection and making sure that you’re emotionally grounded. So anytime I do a live event, like we may start at 6am, hair and makeup and all the things that they’re doing to prep for stage, but I’m already up at 4.30 or five o’clock, making sure that I’m grounded. I’m prayered up, I’m secure. And I prepared to go my mind is focused. 


Shannon Dunn  28:16

That’s an expression of emotional intelligence though isn’t, it’s looking after yourself first in order to be able to support others in a genuine, authentic way.


Tish Bell  29:28



Shannon Dunn  29:29

Love it. So this isn’t a question I originally had, but I’ve just thought about it. I’d love to know the answer. What’s one of the most interesting or challenging because it could be one in the same things that you have actually kind of supported a client through when she is the speaker and the center of attention for that whatever the event is, like what’s the kind of thing that was you kind of like oh, how are we gonna go with this? Like I have no doubt you handled it but you didn’t even see was coming. Like I’d love it. I love these kinds of stories. Behind the scenes kind of stuff.


Tish Bell  30:01

So there’s always a lot of things behind the scene. Okay, so how I am now and you know, this is my personality? Yes, even when challenges happen. So one event, the speaker was on the stage, just walked up to the stage, someone motioned me that her slides, they didn’t have the link for her slides. Oh, so she’s literally on stage, mic in hand, clicker in hand. And I’m walking back. They’re like,  we don’t have her slides. I’m like, we ran through this whole show, the event planner has run through this, what do you mean, you don’t have her slides. And I almost got so upset because I’m like, she’s on stage. Like, this is not the time, I just took a deep breath, I got the event planner. I’m like, they don’t have the slides. She’s like, Oh, we got it, we’re gonna handle it. She sent everything over these things happen. But she’s on stage. And I just tell her like a signal, just, you know, five minutes or whatever they’re working on that. And slides popped up, they finally got the links, whatever they needed to do. And that was after a break. And I think that’s important. Because when you’re on stage, and you know, these are like live events, you’re depending on your slides, even though you know your content and your information. 


Tish Bell  31:28

And you’re like, why isnt anything coming up. So handling that with tact and grace, I think is very important. Because remember, everybody’s also watching you. They’re watching the speaker, but they’re just looking at the speaker’s team, they’re looking at what’s going on. So many things are happening. So you want to make sure even in those challenging moments that you represent, but that was probably one of my biggest ones. It’s always a tech issue. Sorry, tech team, whether it just is.  Either they may have the wrong presentation up. And I’m like, wait a minute, this is not the the run of the show that she has at this moment. So but that just helps me because most of all of my speakers, they have like the best teams and event teams and tech teams and all of that. But I just made sure that she doesn’t get it where someone’s running up to her and completely frazzled energy. Oh, my God, we don’t have your slides. 


Shannon Dunn  32:19

No, definitely not. You know, it was I was on stage with mic, where everybody in the whole room even wondering what’s going on. But it’s just like there’s just a tech thing, we’re working it out, we’ll be with you shortly. And yeah, professional speaker will be able to start just talking and engaging the audience without needing her slides anyway. Right.  Yeah, I think you’re gonna have all parts of that team working in support, don’t you? So much, so. 


Shannon Dunn  32:48

So what does it look like then to support a speaker that’s at that kind of seven, eight figure level, like, that’s next level for a lot of us, I have no doubt that most people listening have been to an event where that kind of a person is on the stage. But we’ve maybe not co-presented or been part of an event where you’ve got people at that level. So what is that like with someone at that level? I mean, my kind of, if I lean back and think about it, I think about those people as being untouchable, often. Like  they’ve got such a team buffering around them, that you can’t get near them, unless there’s a scheduled time for like signing a book or things like that. But from your perspective, being in that behind the scenes space, what does that like to support someone that’s at that level?


Tish Bell  33:37

They’re very generous, giving, sweet, kind. So I have to be honest. My first speaker, she calls me The Warden. This is a nickname that I have,  believe it or not – The Warden. And mostly we’re like, why did she call you Warden? because you’re so nice. I’m like, she knows why she calls me the warden. Because I had guard her, you know what I mean? Like, not like security in a rude way. But I made sure that she’s completely covered. So, but she is very generous. So I find that with a lot of my speaker clients, they have big personalities. They’re like me, they have big personalities. They want to talk to the crowd. They want to be all out in the mix. They’re not stuffy, stuck up, arrogant or anything like that. 


Tish Bell  34:29

And so that’s where I come in as a Warden and because I have to gently remind them, hey, you’ve got like eight hours of this. Yes. So do you want to talk right now, is this what you want to do? Or like, you know, the music is pumping and my speakers like, I’m like, ma’am, you need to save your voice because you’re gonna be hoarse. You’ve got four days of this, I know you want to scream but just do a fake scream, you know? So things like that, but but they are…. It’s an incredible opportunity. The women that I work with are very generous, very down to earth, loving, just so loving. I mean, I have never experienced anything like this because we know we all have our beliefs, all right, they’re gonna be like this. 


Tish Bell  35:16

But not only are they very loving, they’re very business minded. You don’t get to, you know, an eight figure level, being passive or leaning it, you know, you don’t. It’s like a work ethic, a business acumen. They’re very organized, structured, I mean, you just learn a lot from walking alongside them. And I think that’s important. But yeah,  I haven’t come across anybody that’s arrogant. And I think women in business, understand if you build a business, like the women I work with, from from zero, or from bankruptcy or from public housing, when you build a business and a brand, and to that level of incredible-ness, you understand that you didn’t get there on your own, no one handed you anything. It was by your work ethic, the grace of God, prayer, people supporting you, even when people didn’t support you, you understand that I recognize that. Nobody has given me this, I worked for this. And so I handle it with care. And they handle people with care. Like I have found with my speakers, there’s zero tolerance for any level of disrespect or rudeness. 


Shannon Dunn  36:30

I get that completely. And I imagine that a lot of the clients that you support and others at that level that you’re yet to meet, have, like led events, been a keynote speaker, hosted a multi day event, where they like you said that they’re actually it’s their voice over and over again for hours on end. And they’ve done that without the kind of support that someone like you provides. So, I imagine there’s also a lot of gratitude Tish, for having someone like you there to do the things that you do. Right? Yeah, they can breathe out, like I even think about, not exactly the same, but in hosting the business retreats that I host, so many of the ladies that come to that they say to me, I love that I literally just had to get on the airplane, because I do them internationally. And I just had to show up. And everything about what we’re doing for the entire week is taking care of. So yes, I’m leading, teaching and you know, talking and like all of that everything is taken care of, I don’t have to think about where I’m staying, I don’t have to think about what we’re doing. You just tell me kind of where to be, at what time, or what to bring. Even meals like I just I don’t even have to think about I just had to choose off the menu. But I’d have to go, where are we going to go to eat? Like I know, I’m going to be nourished in lots of different ways. So that’s kind of made me think about that as well. 


Shannon Dunn  37:52

And when you’ve had an experience where you’ve had to push and struggle, and you know that the tech ends up being you’re the star, but you’re sorting out the tech. Right? Hey, I’ve done that as a speaker. Oh, yeah, when the AV person was sick that day. And I show up with a Mac as well, which a lot of you know, I remember this very one particular experience many years ago now. And they were like, I don’t think they’d ever seen a MacBook, like, they’d only ever use PC. And so they didn’t have the right connections. I bring all my own stuff. So because I’ve been caught out too many times. And they were just like, baffled. They didn’t know what to do to support me to even set up properly, let alone. Do we have your content? Do you know know how to use the clicker, does a clicker work with a Mac? I bought my own? Okay. But you  shouldn’t have to do that when you’re the keynote speaker. Right?  The Tish takes care of everything. And the Warden, I love it. It’s such a good name.


Tish Bell  38:56

 Yeah, the Warden. The Warden takes care of it. They don’t have to worry. And I think that’s important. You know, and we’re all women. We’re all sisters. We all have a mission like all of us, you know, and it’s just a natural thing for me to like, step in and support is -it’s a gift. But growing up in church is what I did. And you know, even now thinking about like my life and how it has evolved, I would have never thought that I would be doing this or having a blast doing this. I thought maybe I would be doing something else. And there are multiple things that I do. But one thing I can say about the women that I support, every woman around them or man on their team, they are so amazing and incredible. Like it is like yeast, everybody rises. Yeah, everybody’s in their gift. Everybody’s in their passion and in some of them have other businesses, but it’s like we come together for like this, this level of support that is completely unmatched. And I absolutely, I love it and to work with women that are just doing incredible things in the world. And it again, just being in proximity is just helping me to be more grateful and appreciative. And they are very grateful to because I mean, I’m already booked for events in 2024.


Shannon Dunn  40:29

Of course you are. No doubt at all. You have to let me know when you have your first international event. Yeah, because I imagine they’re mostly in the US at this current time. But yeah, I get a sense that this is going to go much bigger than maybe you’ve ever anticipated. And I’m here for it.


Tish Bell  40:47

 I believe that because I take that mindset that everything that we do is big, and it’s like expanding, and the possibilities are endless, like I really hold on to that mindset, and whatever I do prospers. So I know that through this gift of service, it just prospers in so many ways. But not only that I want to say this, the first speaker, I supported. And just being in the conference, and just hearing the information, even though I’m listening, my focus is like directly on the speaker, but just elevator conversations with her. I mean, it has yielded 1000s of dollars to my income, just elevator conversations with them. That’s why I say they’re so generous. There’s so giving, and it’s just a wonderful, wonderful atmosphere.


Shannon Dunn  41:42

Very, very cool. Yeah, for all right, my friend, I’ve got a couple of questions. I want to ask you now that I ask al the guests we have on the podcast, the first one and I’m really intrigued about what your answer is going to be. What role does leadership play in your life and your business?


Tish Bell  42:00

Your theme she leads. A woman who leads herself is powerful. I have grown into self leadership, and have the initiative, the ambition, and even the self motivation to lead, to do, to achieve, to conquer, to dominate, right? To take over. It’s so important. As a woman, we look to others to lead us. But your greatest leadership is going to come from how you lead yourself. And be that role model and that best friend that you’re looking at to others. Become her. Become the role model. Who inspires you? My future self? 


Shannon Dunn  42:45

Right. So often we hear things like you know, you lead from within or everything starts from within, your success starts from within. And yet until you actually understand what that means, it can sound like this strange foreign thing that other people talk about. And I love that you talked about the inspiration, be inspired by yourself. I have no doubt in my mind if we get to profile you with the Thrive Factor Archetypes at any point in time, that the Inspirer Believer Archetype will be one of the Archetypes that show up in your Thrive Factor profile. She said she’s the Archetype of the cheerleader. So much so much. You’re right. I knew that when we first connected all that time ago. It’s an Archetype that I have as well. But mine’s not as as effervescent as yours. She’s has serious moments. 


Shannon Dunn  43:34

But one of the key things about that it is that the Inspirer Believer desires to inspire and to be inspired. But often she focuses on being inspired, rather than being an inspiration to herself. And her greatest power and leadership comes when she can be inspired by who she is, what she’s creating, and what she’s sharing with the world. So just like what you said there about being inspired by the your potential and who you are, and your future self. Like let that was just kind of maybe it was Inspirer Believer all over again. A lot. So the next question I have for you Tish is, how do you know when you were thriving?


Tish Bell  44:14

Well, I’m gonna say this when when I’m thriving, I’m just at a calm peace. I used to think that was thriving when I was busy or achieving things like just checking things off the to do list or checking tasks off. That is a result of your inner thrive. But when I am at peace, when I am calm, when I am accomplishing things from like this energy that I have right now, then I’m thriving. Yeah. It’s not about the motion and the momentum or how fast you get something done. It’s about who you are when you’re doing it and being very intentional.


Tish Bell  44:52

 So I’m thriving now having this interview with you because in this interview, we’re creating something that is beyond what we could ever imagine, we don’t know where this will go. But I’m here. And this is like thriving to me. So being in your power, and working your purpose and your mission. That’s when you’re thriving. There’s levels to thriving, but you know, when it’s like, you know what, even if I am doing something mundane, like before I got on the call with you, I had to connect another Instagram account,  the Meta business suite, and I’m like, this isn’t working. So I emailed my Meta business person, I’m like, this isn’t working? And that’s the way way just take a deep breath. Girl, you’re in purpose, you’re connecting another Instagram account, there’s gonna make more money, right to Meta. Like, you’re in purpose. Yeah. So that’s how I know I’m thriving.


Shannon Dunn  45:54

Bringing back that beautiful reality check.  So Tish, is people have been listening to us today. And they are intrigued to know more about you and to get to know you better, where do they go to do that? Like where are the best places to connect with you and to learn from you and to just immerse themselves in your abundance mindset and everything that goes with that?


Tish Bell  46:19

Yeah, they can reach out and they can find me on any social media platform at @thetishbell, and then they can go to our website at tishbell.com


Shannon Dunn  46:29

Yeah, easy. So we will say this regularly, we will make sure that those links that you’ve provided us, which is a number of different places, in the show notes. So if you are listening, and you want to connect with Tish, just go to wherever you’ve listened to this episode from, and you’ll find in the show notes, there’ll be all those links, so you can choose your link of choice or go for all of them. Right? Go for all of them. All right? Do you have a resource that you’d love to share with everyone who’s listening today? Is there some some other way that they could like opt in to hear from you more often or get a resource? Is there something that you’d like to share?


Tish Bell  47:04

Well, so I’m constantly – I won’t say constantly – but I am live on like Facebook, and we have a lot of motivational there. And then go to the Tish Bell website, there are some things that you might be interested in there as well. So definitely on social media, of course, we can always connect, and I live to give you motivation, and empowerment.


Shannon Dunn  47:28

Yeah, just it’s just part of your kind of soul expression, isn’t it Tish? just to be like that, which is very Inspirer Believer, that I will say, bring that Archetype up again. So my friend, what’s a final piece of wisdom, considering all that we’ve talked about today, that you’d love to share with the ambitious kind of impact driven, legacy creating souls that are listening to us today?


Tish Bell  47:51

Absolutely. One piece of advice I will leave with you is literally follow your passion. What lights you up, even if  people don’t agree with it? Or even maybe you went to medical school to be a neurosurgeon and art lights you up? Yeah, I make feel like why am I doing that I’ve invested so much money in this, I felt the same way. But everything leads you to the path. Like you’re always on the right path, you may feel like I’m not on the right path. You’re always on the right path. But you have to tune into your soul. What lights you up, and follow that passion. Even if that whatever lights you up is just a joy, or a personality or an emotion, follow the emotion that lights you up. Because when you get lit up, you light up the world. And you create this whole bubble of joy that is so contagious for other people. And for yourself. 


Shannon Dunn  48:52

Yeah. What a fabulous place to end. I always get to this point of like, do we really have to end? I could keep talking for hours. But you know, I’m mindful out but how long people like to listen to, to conversations. So Tish, thank you so much, again, for being so generous with your time and saying yes, to me with your usual effervescence. It was very fun to receive that yes from you just recently, when I was like, come on, come and chat to me on She Leads She Thrives. 


Shannon Dunn  49:18

 And listeners, thank you for tuning in, whether you’re a longtime listener of She Leads She Thrives, a new listener, you’ve come from Tish’s community or my community, we don’t mind. Thank you for listening to us today and what we have shared with you and I’m a big one for taking some actions. So if there’s something that’s really inspired, and like you said, what’s lit you up in what you’ve heard today, if something has kind of motivated something in terms of an action you could take, go and take that. Right? That’s a leadership, right? It’s following those instincts. It’s following the desire to thrive, go and do something with what you’ve heard today, rather than just feeling motivated. feeling inspired is important, but do something with it. Very much. So Right. Thank you Tish Thank you. Everybody wherever you are in the world have an incredible day and I will be back with a new episode very soon.

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